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9 juillet 2017 à 12h16 #1606
Journal en anglais mais je répondrais en français si vous avez des questions les coquinous.
Pour contextualiser à ceux qui ne me connaissent pas:
Débutant, sortie d’une LTR d’1an
Dernier FC fin juin, nofap depuis
A Bruxelles je sors avec des players du lair ‘RSD’Je partage un rapport/semaine de mes actions quotidiennes
9 juillet 2017 à 12h16 #1607Week 1
Saturday
1st NPU since 1 year ago, Meeting 2new bro and starting @Delirium
Around 5 interactions, 2 interesting but Tourists leaving tomorrow and day after
Happy to discover RSD groupSunday
After a pic nic meet-up, went alone to electro event @ the “Park”
Stayed for 30min, tried to force myself but no inspiration/balls to openTuesday
“Bar mardi” socialised with a guy in the queue
Opened a set of 3, stayed a bit but no investment from them
Tried 2 another but failed to get conversation
A last one which was longer, 2 girls (1 I liked) 1 guy, but difficulties to understand everything with the noiseWednesday
“Martini Terasse” came alone open first group I saw, just one guy shaked my hand the other ignore. Just cut the middle of the conversation
Open a set of 2 girls 1guy, socialised with the guy, the only pretty girl is his girlfriend
A bro joined, he opens (hb7) and I continue with a nice talk about 20min with some kinos and fun -> NC (Texted after and she answer that she’s in love for 8years…)
Tried a few other interactions but girls not open and we maybe give up to easyThursday
Went to 2 different events with a new bro, tried to open twice sets but nothing came up.
Then joined the whole group at Place lux for 20min, walked around but was not inspired to open any and had to go visit a colocationFriday
Decided to stay home to focus on my decision about leaving my flat and finding nice roomies.Saturday & Sunday
Not focus on game, just last sex with my ex for her birthday. Finally done 7 visits, not found any proper room so decided to stay until end of august in my flat to have more time. Also missed the RSD fitness meetup for a stupid visit :/9 juillet 2017 à 12h21 #1608Week 2
Tuesday
“Bar mardi” socialised with a guy in the queue, 2 of his friend joined us later. Stayed for 30min with them, then they started to speak Spanish. Decided to go on my own but no inspiring group, apart from 1guy with 3girls I could have tried but thinking too much. Also seen a girl I talked last week with but just said Hi, not really my style (kind of an excuse….).
When I exit trough the parc there was a girl alone on her phone (thought about opening but no action ☹ )Wednesday
“Loft” bar just near my work, went at the start 18h, was like max 10 people (some speaking NL and other seating by duo). Waited for 5min to see if more people were coming but felt awkward and left.Thursday
Exhausted by work and not in mental shape due to the break upFriday
Joined RSD @ Leuven, nice to meet new guys. Started pretty late for me around 1 and I left at 2.
Tried 4different bars but I don’t know how to explain this, I was just not able to kick myself. There was not a lot of girls but enough to at least try. Just talked to a French girl after a bro told me about, but I was not funny, like started talking about jobs and then struggled to go to a cool conversationSaturday
Pickup seminar was interesting and fun with exercises.
After, the group divided to the point that I was alone at entry of Delirium. Walk all around the place to see any inspiring group and left :/Sunday
Help my ex to move out of the flat and chill aloneSummary: I need to learn to be more independent as I can’t open alone. I was able to do it a few times in Lyon as I was more confident, knowing the bar and had already kiss close randomly there.
I don’t have much fun going out because of low energy even if I want to fuck when I’m home (nofap)Next week: I’ll be more proactive on the RSD chat to be more sociable and challenge wings to push me hard to approach.
Also keeping going out with no results will start to get on my nerves and I might be more willing to kick myself9 juillet 2017 à 16h11 #1611Summary: finally some progress 4 NC /1 date/ 1 KC Out 6days
Monday
Met Dann @ Cospaia Rooftop to get to know each other and consider about being roommates
He was late so I open first 2 guys I saw, they were business man around my age but not in my social level (very superficial and not calculating me). Place was empty so stayed with them until Dann came but convo wasn’t fluent and I felt akward as Dann noticed and make me the remark I look so tense (appreciate the feedback)
He opens a 2set the convo wasn’t crazy he leaves but I stay, after he told me to join him, maybe would have been good to push longer. He opens another set and numclose quickly and we leave.
Back home I read Drini’s report, wahoo! I see guys go out on chat but it’s already 22h30, by the time I’m I the center it’s 23h, I hesitate to go but told myself that it doesn’t make sense for 1h and I’m afraid to be tired at work as I am already not in a great shape.Tuesday
Bar mardi. Open a guy with 3 girls in the queue saying it’s moving fast, get to talked also with 1girl as the others 2 were more talking together even if I tried to implicate them. Open a set of 4 all eating same thing easy to bounce on it, they were older than me but open. NC the younger one not the prettier but closer and felt to have more chances. Open 2 about red light effect of the spot on their skin, convo wasn’t fluent but tried to NC before leaving as she was pretty but said boyfriend(excuse I think). Open 2 young Russians took time to get in but then put some fun, learned that one has a boyfriend so NC the other.
Joined delirium to meet Daan, he took time to come so was chatting with a group of 2 girls 1guy, tourists for festivals. They were nice but got difficulties to understand them even if it wasn’t noisy (accent). Leaving day after, tried to get closer to one but not receptive to duo, more into the group. Then left to catch last metroWednesday
Loft Went at 22h maybe too late. I open a set of 4 actually asking if everyone is in holiday as place is empty. Convo could have been more fluent, the advantage to open a big set is that at least 1 will try to fill the blank. Also noticed that girls around 30 are less harsh towards answering about my approach. A wing would have been helpful to put more energy, I ejected after 5min.
Joined Benni at Mezzo, not that crowded, 1st set with some nice girls but no fun convo, 2nd also great looking better convo tried a few kino but could have push more, NC but forgot to kiss when leaving.
Went to delirium meeting Drini, he opened a few set with nice storytelling. I left to catch last metro.Thursday
Plux joined Benni, Ujvari and Nelson. Open 2girls with 1 guy convo too serious. No fear to open a few others, come to a group of Greeks and met a nice girl with great convo, she was into it :). A few kino even on her cheek. They had to live but NC. she’s leaving in 1 week coming back in September, need to see this cutie before! Then got to know more Nelson, cool guy. And made a terrible approach “hi, I’m ben’. Sounded creepy they told me but we still had a convo but I wasn’t really interested about her.Friday
Mezzo nothing, delirium a few opens and short convos. Walking in street with Andres and Onur but no approach. Luna, opened one on dancefloor bringing her arm to my neck but she wasn’t interested or I was too fast. Could have done way more, I was not so tired but kept thinking going home, so incorrect mindset. Was also thinking about my date the day after (give me confidence but wtf needy)Saturday
Dating the Croatian girl, I proposed to go for a walk in a parc close by my flat. She tried to negotiate to meet in a parc near the EU area. But keep straight to my plan and convince her (fast and in smart way, /proud of me) on the phone.
Met to metro station at 15h, conversation started great, I was talking a lot, really in a great flow and she was participating nicely. I was alpha guiding her around, then we sit on a bench where I started to get closer. Kino escalation without any rejection from her side. I was quite stressed at the time I started thinking when could I kiss her, but finally found the timing to make it smooth within the conversation
Manage to take her to my flat (1h30 after we met) to drink a smoothie I made. Put some music and invite her to dance but she was still shy. At that time, I should have slow down, not enough comfort and the kissing was weird.
She was just not good at it or we didn’t get a connection on this, she was like opening her mouth and waiting too passively that I take care with the “technique” with my tongue. First time I felt that weird about kissing
Still I acted too needy and tried to guide her to the bed, but she put a clear stop, at this point it was dead, she started with the excuse she need to come back to do shopping before shops closed.
It was 17h only but I realised that it doesn’t make sense spending energy trying to make her comfortable again.
I said I just want to hug, so I kept leading with kinos, small smacks and accompanied her to the metro.
Discussion was still ok and we left each other in a nice way. I told her that I like girls who takes initiatives, so that she needs to call me back to see each other again. Looks like her culture or mindset was used to be guided and just follow the man and she’s also shy. But a good/smart person with great job for EU. I would rate her at a 7, I want to fuck her but I feel that it’s going to take time for her and that she might lack of experience in bed. (If you have feedback/tip on Croatian girls). She’s going soon in holiday for 4weeks so time constraint. I don’t want to miss the opportunity but I need to keep focus on gaming/actionSaturday evening
Started party at Youssef place, it was fun at the beginning (Patrick gg for plank challenge more than 5min!) but then I wasn’t so social and felt weird. Joined Benni and Blaise in center , motivation to open was here. A few convo but no really interesting girls. It was still good to exercise.16 juillet 2017 à 23h10 #1671Summary: I finally FC! Out 6days and still a lot of work to improve my convos, approach fear
Monday
Center at 22h, could have open 3 times alone but no balls yet. Then joined Nil at grand place, started opening myself got ignored and then a convo with 2 young but no investment of them. A few in the street but can’t stop them, we saw same set at mezzo my bro started again and we could have stayed.
Deli I open 2 Spanish sitting playing cards, but we don’t know any card game (kind of stupid). Having a nice talk with the cutie, I do one kino on the cheek and think about doing more. But with her friend sitting in front I was hesitating. We could have try to move them in the bar but last metro coming. They were staying until tomorrow in young hostel, need higher -level or remove my limited thoughts about that ons in this kind of situation is tricky.Tuesday
Bar mardi a few opens with convos. One nice but refused my NC as she’s leaving in 2 weeks. Then went to center with Nil, opened but not enough conviction into it. Went to concert place de monnaie but lost my balls to open. Still getting fun walking around saying bs with my bro.Wednesday
Dating Croatian girl at her place after work. Ate together and managed to escalate easily without LMR. No mistakes from my side,fun convo and good connection again. Just still need to improve my English. 35 she had no vaginal sex since 6years, only oral sex, last one 2month ago (she’s dedicated to her work). Didn’t managed to make her cum but not far. I fucked for almost 1h was crazy, alterning slow sex and talking in the same time, then harder, she was saying I’m so good at it several times.
I make her understand that we can be sexfriend, should be good.Thursday
Plux
First opens were difficult with ignoring girls. Then met a friend of Blaise another Croatian! , She was laughing a lot and saying how French are funny. I wanted to take her number too fast she proposed fb (not solid I think) . Idea is to meet to train her to swim and she learn me cooking.
Then a few opens and a nice convo with a cute German girl. So great to see the energy she was putting in our talk. I NC her and projected a run together.Friday
I was depressed and tired at home but Vibkes at Chalet Robinson was planned with Blaise.
By preparing my mojo was back and this night should have been amazing. It’s good to go to only one place, fancier than the drunky center to see more locals.
We started by a set of 3 where we stayed for an 1hour, a little bit too long for me. Convo was ok with some fun but nothing more. Then we opened maybe 5sets in total. I was not enable to build connections and also overthinking by realizing how not fluent and flat convos were.
Happy for my bro who managed a KC with a cutie.
Could have done way more, I can’t explain but couldn’t bring the flow/energy. I got ignored with some of my bad approaches and maybe it turned me down.
I need to work on this state because I know I can do it when I have good interactions I don’t pay attention and move on.
I regret to not have done a crash and burn on the dancefloor before leaving, meaning direct game lines with kissing intentions. Next time no excuses.Saturday
Gentefestee
Going with Blaise again, cool bro to get to know eachother.
I started by approaching a 2 set of 20yo, asking best spot to go, happy about me having no fear and good convo, I took the facebook of the pretty one to catch up later in the night (we didn’t).
We were around from 22h to 2h, a lot of walking but also standing in the middle of passage in this huge crowd to stop some girls. I took the number of another cutie my bro approached, convo was basic but we had some common interests.
Definitely a nice event, was surprised to see so many nice Flemish girls.
Again, we could have approach way more and doing direct game.
Street pick up is my biggest challenge for now, sounds so hard to me working with my mind state about approaching. When I’m home it’s looks stupid, “just do it”, but when I’m in the street I don’t want it so crazy.Sunday
Was supposed to see the Cro girl to fuck but she insisted that I need to come to her place, I decided to stick on my position as I proposed first. She already saw my flat which is ok (even better bed) and is located only 20min from her place. Didn’t tried to argue and understand why or see the kind of excuses she has.
I’m sort of an OI on her so it’s better that I work on me to be less needy. If she doesn’t come to me and don’t do any efforts, it means that she doesn’t really care and it’s no worth to be sexfriends. (or maybe I’m just wrong and could have put more efforts, going to see next week if she gives news)24 juillet 2017 à 18h20 #1778#AccountabilityWeek5 #Ben
Summary: still action 6/7, few NC and 1 KC
Monday
Met Juan and Lenny, opened 4sets mainly tourists. Deli and grand place. Long interactions but not a lot of fun came out. Was short but still nice to go out meet new rsd guys.Tuesday
Bar mardi
Alone I opened around 5sets, 30min convo with a 2set, put some fun but fucked it up at the end by obsessing one girl negging too hard. Also done some networking with other about job opportunities! Happy to force myself as I was feeling bad about my day at work and finally changed my mind. I even approached a girl in the park while talking with Blaise in the park.Wednesday #action
Loft open a girl sitting alone in front of the bar, she was actually watching on her boyfriend which is barman! Open a 3set making fun about screenshots on tinder creepy guys pictures, stayed for 5min there was no chair to sit with them anymore, tried to NC one but talked about a boyfriend.
Heading to Delirium I opened one in the escalators of metro, should have stopped to keep convo as I had a good guess that she just came back from holidays in Greece.
Deli was full of Tomorrowland tourists, I joined Matt for few short opens.
Then mezzo 2 tourists from UK we joined them sitting but hard to understand with her crazy accent, they left themselves after 5min.
One last street open but they didn’t stop, intention was here but needed more energy/added value maybe.Thursday #crap
Plux few opens with Blaise but didn’t wanted to stay too long in sets, NC an Italian girl (solid but actually failed while typing, my bro told me I’m old school with NC and should go for insta/fb.) #shouldlistentoadvices.
As planned I met again the Croatian from last week, I isolated her outside because she knows a lot of people and we were getting interrupted. Starting to get physical and tried to go for the kiss but she saw it coming and avoided it, I insisted playful and beat her chick instead. She was saying that she likes me and we have a good connection but no kiss as she flies back home the day after for 1 month…
Met again another cro girl opened in the street the week before also, she remembered me as racist as I was making fun about Balkans last time. (Took her number and tried to be direct by sms the next day but she was not open.)
Then jeux d’hiver, first time, nice place, crazy crowded. Opened a 2 set with married girls, convo was fun, then another one with a cutie. Good start, we managed to move them and switched girls with my bro. Convo finally turned out to be less fluent, losing my energy trying too hard to get something out of it and finally we separated. Was maybe too early and wanted to stay in too long.
Then didn’t done much, my mental state was weirdoFriday
Deli and mezzo a few opens but wasn’t able to build funny convos. Nice to see my bro Blaise making progress on opens. Still good to go out change my mind.Saturday
Deli, first time I started that late around 23h30. By trying to find rsd guys I found a nice 2set. They’re playing with me with fake names and saying coming another planet. I get into the fluff and redirect subject about sex(should do that way more often). Nice convo after 10min the local was making fun about her friend from Paris which was quite obsessed looking photos on her phone. Talking about her ex we proposed she can revenge by taking a pic with me. I ask her to kiss me, she does on the chick. The friend don’t know how to use my phone so 2 more times where I kiss her like a man. She was horny but when I went for the number or insta to share she said ‘I’m leaving tomorrow so it doesn’t make sens’. I didn’t try to argue much more, could have push more but social pressure towards her friend I guess. Should have tried to stay in contact with the local, even if she was testing me a lot when I was doing kino on her.
That put me in a good vibe to open more, some tourists with Onur.
Then with Benni a few opens, met à French from my region coming living in September, NC she was cute.
At Nua and big game quite nothing, opened in the street heading to Mezzo. Short convos there but not much, tried Corbeaux. A random guy shaked my hand, he was with a 3set all sexy girls but all having boyfriends he was the friendzoned boyfriend!Sunday
Fucked my cro sexfriend again, twice was great finally with orgasms both together. Good connexion even if we are so different30 juillet 2017 à 22h50 #1810#AccountabilityWeek6 #Ben
Summary: still action 6/7, few NC and 2 cancelled datesMonday
Needed some rest home as got cold and throat pain.
Cried while starting to write a text to my ex (not to take her back, more to thanks and share emotions)Tuesday
Bar mardi
Approached like 5 different sets in 2h30. No connexions but I pushed trying to add fun and having great (hard actually) time. Focused on making assumptions to make people talk about them.
Finally, last set was more responsive and got invite for the party at Jeux d’hiver. Not many pretty girls to my taste or singles tonight…Wednesday
Loft with work colleagues, I didn’t stay long but thought about approaching a 2 set while leaving…
Went to cro sexfriend as last time before her going one month for holiday.
It was weird she was stressed, sex was good but missing sensations depending on condoms.
The post orgasms discussion was cool but before she was acting crazy, maniac about cleaning, not being nice…
I realized that she’s not that cute after all, I mean 174 for 60, ok face, average boobs and could have smaller as for me.
I think it’s human to get attached, especially after a break up but I was overthinking.
I need to forget this, it was an interesting experience anyway.Thursday #talkingwithconfidence
Plux
Approached Spanish set sitting on a bench, standard convo but when I decided to take her number she was more interested. She was a little drunk so I could have isolate her and go for the kiss but my wings Matt and Blaise joined.
This intro put me a great MOJO to approach more.
Good connection with a cute German/Swedish girl, a shame it was her last day in Brussels. Knowing that i decided to leave convo as Saik was saying hi.
Other 2 set of Belgians Matt approached, hard to get fluent convo at the beginning, then ok but mine started smoking(always turn me off). We switched girls but then left my bro to focus on his target, turned out she have boyfriend.Friday
Jeux d’hiver 23h-3h
First set approached was actually friends of Matt I joined later
Lots of approaches and felt less weird than last week. Got some connections but not lasting either because group wanted to move or convo was dying.
Good that I wasn’t carrying about rejections or girls shitty behavior like ignorance
Not going into much details, I don’t understand myself.
I can be very social and tactile but not going for more (only one hug).
I’m mad at myself, there was opportunities in numbers but I’m missing a lot by not being comfortable to faking having fun while dancing.Saturday
Started at Callens with Benni average age was high, took a number of a Spanish not that cute, was more to see her reaction. Also took the Facebook of a girl sitting on a bench in the street waiting a friend, could have stay longer with her actually…
Delirium few opens without a lot of energy. Big game and nua opens but not speaking loud enough.
Mezzo got close contact on dancefloor with a French but boyfriend was thereI was supposed to date the Spanish from Wednesday but she was into meeting each other but not enough to arrange her changing agenda.
Sunday
Date cancelled with German from Plux 2h before time planned, she was apologizing with decent excuse I guess and really want to make it work next time.
Electronic piknik experiencing the hub idea that Kevin proposed nicely.
Good mojo I realized, even if I might be wing-dependant, when we are a group of bros I feel more enthusiastic. The idea is not to choding for long but having fun and keep good energy together while waiting to approach again.
I was in a 2set for quite a time, got number from one and insta from other as we done a picture for my social proof. Few other approaches nothing crazy but still action!
Another number from a young with great blue eyes, not very solid but good to try.6 août 2017 à 13h53 #1890#AccountabilityWeek7 #Ben
Summary: still action, 2KC that changed my “hater” vison toward nightclubsMonday
Seen again this Romanian doctor I fucked a few times 4month ago. I didn’t expect she wanted to meet to say how mad she was about my behaviour with her (I was cheating with my ex, I only wanted a sexfriend but she wanted more).
So much anger like I criticize everything, being too direct and mean, not carrying about others.
I was about to leave but stayed for an hour to listen to that feedback. Before saying goodbye forever, she makes me understand we still could be friends (wtf crazy, she’s smart but she also has her problems in head….)
Went to deli, open a girl from tomorrowland, convo was cool but I ejected myself as she leaving next day. Then 2 set of French both in couple and not staying longer…Tuesday
Bar mardi #never give up
Omg so weird, few opens but no connections just one long convo with a Stewardess but too serious. I was even making up some storytelling quite absurd. I don’t get myself. Maybe because there were no girls really at my taste or I was acting weird that’s why people were not open or just bad luck with no fun people. Missing a wing there to boost me:/
My lines (guessing jobs, talking about holidays or remarks on their clothes) are always the same, not interesting and getting worst when people don’t give a shit about involve in interacting.
The balance between being social and showing sexual intentions is so hard to find atm.Revenge needed I went again at 22h, met à Romanian girl I already saw when visiting a for a flat. We didn’t remember first so it was intriguing and I was playing with her, a lot of kino, I was in a good MOJO, taking pics and almost try to isolate to kiss her, decided to come back later but finally just took her number. Matt joined and we opened more, 2 sporty girls I took the number before leaving even if she was joking about not giving her real name (which I found easily on fb/insta)
At the end one really cute, totally my style convo was short, even with my good wing occupying the friends one close was really cock blocking, like asking her each 2min if everything is OK. Like I would rape her right now…
Took her number maybe not solid but good to meet, honestly one my favourite since I started my opening machine mood!Wednesday
Loft
2set of French jurists they were open but more into talking about work together than really getting to know me. I ejected myself because I recognize a girl met before, we don’t remember first and then I do, was 2month before at a meetup. Convo was standard, I wanted to take her number and leave but realized it wouldn’t make sense so I stayed longer to see some fun but not really, at least I was comfortable. But getting hungry and didn’t see the point to just talk random I decided to leave. She didn’t want to NC so took her FB.Thursday
Vibkes
Crazy noisy, put my ear plugs but wasn’t able to ear much. A few opens with Matt…
A girl came to me when Jaryd was taking a picture of me riding an elephant (a fake one sadly!) . I tried to kiss her but I wasn’t trying hard enough and she had a boyfriend.
Met again the stewardess from bar mardi but I didn’t recognize her in the first time so she was obsessedFriday
Joined a meet up straight after work, then Scott bar where I met a Romanian IT girl was cool I took her Facebook.
Deli I was tired and nothing much but cool to discuss with guys I already met.
I start to feel my month of intense gaming, first time I feel I need so much restSunday 2KC (big analysis with details -> feedback is welcome guys)
Birdy with Henk empty at 1h apparently getting filled at 2h30. 2 opens just random
Spirito: after 15min in the club I was texting this on my phone:
“Well it’s 2 and I’m quite asking myself wtf I’m doing here. Faking to have fun dancing on the dancefloor not my thing so I’m writing these to occupy myself because if I start to approach with fast seduction everything in 5min I’m done.”
Then I saw Saik upstairs and we briefly talk with his friend, that put me in a better mindset to approach naturally 2 girls standing just next to us. They looked to have the same shoes and the conversation was started, first we she was like doing me a fuck sign with her finger but I didn’t care shit about and kept fluff talking. It was about guessing our names and she was into playing about it (quite cool because a lot of girls give up fast about guessing in general). Her friend left us alone to get some drinks (alleluia not a retarded cockblocking one).
But guys when your bro is gaming don’t watch crazy what’s doing, the girls feels it (Saik’s friend was not discreet and the girl talked about it but we’re laughing about it)
At a certain point, she started to sit on a chair I talk again fast with bro as I was quite detached knowing I will not lose the target. I came back to her make her dance and getting physical. Nothing was overthought I knew my intentions but it was pretty natural as she was responsive. I don’t remember everything but in a timeframe of 15min after open I was isolating her on the dancefloor kissing nicely.
She’s my type and I have a great moment, I didn’t want to do too much looking needy so we’re switching with kissing and talking. I’m in the FLOW 😊 no convos issue it’s fun and cool.
The remaining question is: could I have done more? On a sexual perspective, like touching more near boobs and pussy, well she was isolated and we were more in a corner at a certain point but no intimacy. So, I was just more animal pushing her on the wall and then we joined her friend again.
Saik was with her but then my memory fails, and maybe that’s where I losed the game. I took her number and was trying to talk about an after in a subtle manner but not sure I bring it well.
First, she was saying she’s tired and need to wake up early due to family, I was asking about logistics, apparently her friend was driving but then she left without her and said someone is coming to take her.
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After this great moment, I was the Ben I need to be more often, finally having fun dancing a little on the dancefloor and approaching playful. Well there was some girls ignoring and 2 refusing to leave her friends to join me 5meters further on the dancefloor but I was detached.
I was doing a contextual approach again on a Romanian about her dress. Actually my strategy for the night was to do speed seduction and going for the kiss asap but it wouldn’t have been smart as the club is not that big after all.
So, I was talking with her and his friend, which I was more into even if she was smoking (ok people smoking inside here…). While chatting with both the prettier was finally done with smoke but there was still her glass blocking to dance. I take it from her to put it on a table (wasn’t sure it will work but good). Then getting physical she admits having a boyfriend (French one also!), I verify it’s true by asking where’s from and checking if she visited a place I know there.
She advises me to go dancing with her friend saying she was into me.
It was good in the first part to talk with both, because if I would have ignored the first I approached I would have been fuck to dance with her as a “backup”. Less pretty than my first KC, I would have still fuck for the sport.
Dancing closer, I took more time to go for the kiss but I was nicely detached so no hurry. She was kissing well also but shyer than the first one (less tongue).
And maybe that’s where I wasn’t able to make her pussy so wet that she couldn’t resist to come back having orgasms.
I finally isolated her to go sit away from dancefloor as it was already 5 and wanted more action.
I bring the discussion like: “so what do we do?” to see if she involves while me not forcing or leading too much. Of course, she was doing like the ‘I don’t know what you are talking about…’
“my place or your place?” because she has a studio nearby so if she can be more comfortable there I don’t care.
But then I receive a frame “I came with my friends I leave with them”. So I was trying to make her understand life is starting at the end of the comfort zone and carpe diem.
But her message was pretty clear and I didn’t want to try too hard to convince here, she’s missing great sex. Social pressure probably toward the (splitted) group I guess, even if my bro Henk was also isolating and kissing with another from the group.
She wanted to dance again, for me it wasn’t making sense. I enjoyed for a time but a certain point come on, I can be patient but I’m not here to just kiss on the dancefloor
So I took her number and left.
I didn’t want to do some dirty talk, put her in the mind the crazy sex we could do, next time I’ll try to warm the atmosphere with this.
Could have been more physical also but I was most of the time the one leading about kissing and kinos and her not showing crazy sexual signals jumping on me.
If I would have been in the same situation with the first as I was hornier about, I would have try everything to push with my hands until having a clear stop.
One great thing to add is authenticity: these girls were sober and I’m happy about it, Alcohol is a game changer to ease sex but what the reward to sleep with drunk or high girl?
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Also today I’m relaunching the numbers collected past weeks (8) I have 4 other but dead cold) and some FB.
Next week less game planned, focus on finding great flatmates!13 août 2017 à 20h59 #1982#AccountabilityWeek8 #Ben
Summary: game burn out, hard time
Monday
Visiting a really nice flat with cool roommateTuesday
While leaving home to go to metro I saw a great as walking in front of me but I didn’t get the balls to run after.
A second one getting out of her car nice I saw her face, also taking metro.
I’m thinking about approaching it’s already good but I need to take action. My fears are confirmed by my excuses saying what’s the point, what are the possibilities we have a nice talk and could end up in anything.Bar mardi with Kevin and Youssef
2convos no true connection but took Facebook.
Met some French from Lyon at Deli leaving the day after. Open UK girl alone but waiting for her boyfriend, was cool she was nice but i exit. Joined bros in a set, chat with the less pretty one and went home.
Was good to just go out change my mindWednesday
After visiting a flat near grand place, I saw Saik, while chatting there was 3 opportunities to open. I almost went once but I was overthinking and my heart was already over beating with the fear (crazy)
My parents passed by to start preparing my moving out from the flatThursday
Raining but is it an excuse to no go out? No!
City center was quite empty but still some opens. Convo with Italian girl Saik opened. She proposed to wing me and when I took action she was scared as hell …Friday
Before dinner at Kevin’s place was cool to just go there without gaming ideas (invited 2 girls to the event but too afraid to join I guess), Deli a few opens and convo with Saik.
Stayed long in a set with Slovakia girls, actually starting to write my report at the same time to occupy. It’s funny because there were with 2guys speaking also their languages but they ejected by themselves after seeing we are more the center of attention.
Tried to move them to mezzo but they were not that into, with more skills/experience I think it was possible.
Mezzo getting tired at 2am, tried to dance but not into Latino music so staying in walking area trying to see some girl’s I coul stop, but being too passive. Short convo and took Facebook of young skinny outsideSaturday
Tired not motivated to go out but forced myself
Joined Henk at Spirito again, starting at 1h30. Music is way less electro
Open a cute PL girl but she wasn’t understanding much what I was saying.
1h after being inside I tried only 1 more open, this club is ok but too small (->excuse I was writing).
Birdy done nothing apart from faking having fun dancing.
I think I’m going to stop clubs until I’m ready to kick my as again
3h30 I’m done with this shit, totally blockedSunday
Seen my ex to help with Smartphone issue, we took time to chat but nothing really came out of it. At least we didn’t kiss or fuck so happy about myself keeping focus.Summary after 2months of accountability:
It’s been 3weeks I didn’t put my dick in a pussy, still nofap but I’m not that horny actually.
All these efforts and time spend on going out these last 8weeks for 1FC and 3KC.
Numbers without answers, dates cancelled, kiss without pull…
Well it’s not the time to give up, but strategy to define, trying other things.Next steps:
Waiting feedback on my visits and take a decision for roommates
Slow down on going out just for say to myself that I take action but without 200% involvement
Improve my mindset/inner game, have more fun
Day game, work on my fears20 août 2017 à 23h06 #2016#AccountabilityWeek9 #Ben
Summary: still action, starting street, 1KC
Monday
Bowling rooftop/ I open a 2set of young Italians, the start was slow but still ok to convo while waiting for Saik. Took a funny pic with her glasses and the FB but not solid
Saw again a Finish girl who recognize me from Jeux d’hiver, I didn’t, she remembers my weird sense of humour!
Took her number, she’s not that cute but she’s cool.
Forced Saik to do one last open before end and we talked with a 3set going to Jeux d’hiver.
We follow them, there I discover my target of the group have a boyfriend.
Met Philippe there, he was inspiring to me as he put a lot of fun while dancing and has a different approach of other gamers I saw recently.
I need to find the balance between too much fun and too much action, I was more in the fun and at 2am I realised I almost didn’t approach so I was putting pressure to take hand of some to dance but it was too late, she was leaving. I kind of lost my balls because I could have go again to dance to another I talked shortly and remembered her name… (the friends circle group pressure scared me :/)
In this kind of evening I agree the night has different phases:
first you speak with everyone just fluff because if you go direct you burn yourself (for this you need high level of energy and fun to bring in convos)
2nd you need to be more sexual and move on the girl which look more receptiveTuesday
Street: Started the collaboration with Simo shooting a short video presenting my state and a few approaches.
Around 10opens, idea was just to practice and see how I feel.Bar mardi/ started with a Romanian while waiting for Kevin. Good reminder from him to always say goodbye while leaving. Then 2 Belgians quite open, convo was long with some interesting subjects but she wasn’t inspiring me a lot. At a point, she tells me not liking being touched, as I have done it several times before and she said nothing I was surprised and blocked about this.
A last set with cold girls but Kevin was giving a lot of energy, I could have relocated to talk closer to one but was thinking it would look needyWednesday
Street: 7 opens in 30min at noon and around the same after work in 1h joining Andrés and Michael. 3convos lasting more than 30sec, still not long.
Good thing I was able to stop almost all and no clear rejectionThursday
Plux/ winging Saik, convo with a Romanian girl, needed to put a lot of effort into to get fluent. Breaking the ice part was long but then we started to have finally some subjects. Tried to go for kc but she turned her head. Didn’t care about taking numberFriday
Signed contract with roommate right in the center, so no excuses anymore 🙂
Stamp/ with Philippe, nice bar with a lot of cute girls. Had fun approaching randomly, not really long convos, one was cool touching me a lot I was thinking about going for a KC before leaving but went for the number (which she wrongly typed on my phone and I didn’t check as for me it was solid as she called herself). I think she has a boyfriend, anyway….
Then Knokke out: I was an approach machine, around 10opens asking first if the girl is hetero and then if she would like to kiss me. After a few tries I finally kissed a girl which has a boyfriend, danced a little bit and tried to kiss again but nothing anymore, was just fun. Then I was in invincible mode, not carrying about rejection and keeping the smile whatever answers and actually no drama.Saturday
Street and photo session with a bro, no outcome just around 5 opens
No going out first time on a Saturday since 2month, well city center wasn’t inspiring me a lot also no bros aroundSunday
Freeletics event, I realised I should go more often to sports events, girls are way more pretty and to my style. Took FB of one for eventually working in events during weekends. Put me in a good mojo.28 août 2017 à 18h47 #2026#AccountabilityWeek10 #Ben
Summary: results finally coming: 4 dates, 1 great FC, 1KC
Monday
-Street
2opens at lunch break
10 opens evening
1 convo at the Cafe st gery, the girl proposes me to sit as I’m also waiting someone, took FB but she has boyfriend.Tuesday
Street 3 opens
-Bar mardi
2 opens only, 1 convo with a cute of a group Kevin opened. I was struggling to add fun but stayed for a bit as she was open and took number to go for a run in the week.
-Deli open a set of “filles au pairs”, cool convo with one girl from USA then Kevin introduce me another and I miss doing the hub by presenting everyone so she left. I saw her again passing by later and ask for number she says she is not leaving so later but it was an excuse.Wednesday
-Street 3 opens
-Date in a parc with a French girl i met 1 month ago at deli. I kind of show my interest in her on WhatsApp as I was also looking for flatmates and saying I couldn’t do it with her as I’m attracted.
I almost cancelled it as she wasn’t that involved to meet again and poor communication on time we met. But on my way home she texts saying being there in 15min so I joined her.
Convo was cool I was talking about movies, traveling, experiences… We found some common matches in ourselves.
Lasting 2h I was struggling to escalate, get kino and staying close to her. I touched her hair to put them behind ear but it was bad timing. She was getting hungry and I made the mistake to rationalise saying I want to eat her!
When we keep walking I massage her and put my arm on her but not too long to not look needy.
Waiting for tram I see Drini, he was quite helping adding some social proof. I was hesitating to go eat with her so we stopped at Louise and walked a bit keep talking and decided to leave. I kind of tried to get invited to her home to eat her home made salad she was talking about but she wasn’t open.
My mistake was: I didn’t talked about my flat and put the idea we could eat something together there or cook something funny. We were quite far so I’m not sure I would have been able to convince her.
I would have been uncomfortable to eat outside, I never do so I don’t know places. I was thinking of a healthy burger place around my work, anyway…
Saying goodbye I finally kiss her, I was surprised this time she was OK and ask about my first try and we agreed it was creepy. that I don’t fail to gain confidence for my future dates.Thursday
-Street 4opens missed 3 opportunities
2 5min convos 1 inspiring tourist and 1 girl talking about a business
Saw the first I opened she came back to me but not long convo
-Dated the French again at my place, we eat together the idea was to watch a movie but we played some mortal kombat.
Then we started exchanging some massage on the bed.
She was DTF so it went quite naturally to undress and start by taking care of her.
I was in control it’s difficult to explain why sometimes girls put so much blockers to not have sex.
Sex was cool as she was quite active, just issue with stupid condom to unroll it until the end.
Her body is great, best I have fuck so far.
We slept together and talked about becoming sexfriends. I took risk (I felt she wasn’t lying) to trust her without condom the 2others times. No comparison possible.
She’s smoking so losing a lot of points to me and I don’t get her character yet, not very talky she can be kind but also bitchyFriday
-Street missed 3opportunities 2open 1 short convo
-Meeting German girl from plux, went to my place then laeken fireworks.
Kino while watching and finally kissing.
I don’t really remember how I brang it, I was going with my awesome flow and it wasn’t ackward or weird, just natural. Well I thought before how I could bring it sooner but timing was ok at the end.
Her voice was broken with throat pain she wanted me to drive her home.
We went back to my place and I was keeping her occupied but when we walked again to my door she stopped at the entry.
It was last metro time so she was testing me.
Her master in psychology and my probably needy behaviour didn’t help to fuck this night.
I was walking upstairs and she wasn’t following, I almost lost her this time but she finally entered for ‘5min tea time’. We kissed and I tried to put some sexual tension put maybe pushing too much. I was putting in her head the Carpe diem fact.
Honestly, I don’t know if with more experience it was really possible.
I finally done the nice guy and drove her back home. It was debriefing time about our night. She felt like I just wanted to fuck her without carrying.
We kept kissing and scheduled to see each other again on Monday.
-Then center, Deli and Celtica with Saik and a 4set, I was feeling great and fearless, approached 3 others with speed seduction. Took one number but she has a boyfriendSaturday
Break time to clean my flat
Was supposed to fuck the French in the afternoon again but periods.Sunday #dates day
-Running with number from Bar mardi, good convo some kino. While walking to my place to taste my homemade smoothie, her flatmate call her because she has no keys. In emergency, she wants to go help, I still lead her until my door but she doesn’t want to enter even 2min for filling her bottle of water. While saying bye I tried to kiss her but she avoided it.
-Afternoon Walk in the parc with a finnish girl i met 2times at jeux d’hiver. She has a husband since 18y but the long distance is killing it now. She doesn’t know what she wants. Done kinos and bring her back home easily, while we drink I keep kinos and go for the kiss as she was complimenting my eyes. She refused but says liking how I touched her. We had a discussion about relationships and it was still cool. She’s smart, I wouldn’t mind staying friends.
-Evening fucked a chubby one from OD, sexting and erotic pics since a week so I just wanted to do it for the sport. I don’t feel dirty but I should respect myself more.
This week was quite something, a lot of things in my life but I’m still thinking a lot about this cute French.
It’s not the time to think about anything serious but I got attached (after seeing her twice LMAO), this is now my biggest challenge: low investment and not carrying.4 septembre 2017 à 0h38 #2073#AccountabilityWeek11 #Ben
Summary: busy with packages, relocation finally done, abundanceTuesday
street 3 opens
No rejection but not able to keep convo
missed 2opportunitiesWednesday
Moving to st geryThursday
Finishing my move in, @ 22h I was too dead to go to pluxFriday
Deli-nua-mezzo
Move 2 young french tourists, but I wasn’t investing much in, the girl was as passive as me so no convos. Could have tried more but was tired and didn’t care that much
Done one speed seduction before leaving but she had boyfriend.
23-3h is already long for me
Lack of energySaturday
Deli and Mezzo 23h30-2h30
I was sick of Deli, drunk people smoking and crowd rush
Met Daan again was cool to see you again.
Fatih was running like Bambi after girls in the street, respect for your energy and high state. You have a lot of fun doing it.
->And there comes my biggest problem these days: I don’t enjoy approach random girls.
It might be an excuse, I need to work on my state.
I didn’t see a lot of cute girl and wasn’t horny.
Mezzo I didn’t even enter but staying outside was interesting to see people usually entering the place
Sunday #3 dates
-German was postponing timing so I made her invest more by bringing sandwiches in the park. We got quite tactile this time, convo was cool really, she was horny but had to work after. I’ll fuck her on Monday.
-Right after when to the French for 2times, we went together each time really great without condom. Only the end of her iud which annoys me sometimes.
-Cro girl after 1 month not seeing she was still crazy even after her holidays. She finally completely shaved her pussy so by licking she came 2times (in less than 2min :o) but her behaviour is wtf. I guess she is not that comfortable with sex after all. She didn’t want to blow me this time but I still had fun->this is cool but I can have better fuckbuddies by improving my game, next week is time to get away of my comfort zone taking new solid numbers and fuck new fresh pussies. It’s only the fucking beginning, game on
7 septembre 2017 à 10h24 #2172Pourquoi en anglais mec ?
11 septembre 2017 à 19h01 #2200Je veux améliorer mon anglais et je peux le partager à plus de personnes
#AccountabilityWeek12 #Ben
Summary: slight action, fucking in comfort zoneMonday
Lunch with my bro, no street
Went to impro theater meetup, I invited myself because the organiser wasn’t answering, then the guy text me it was rude but had no balls to tell me face to faceFinally fucked the German, wow body with perfect boobs.
Wanted to do second round but she was too sensitive and couldn’t get wet enough.
I was frustrated as she did not want to blow me in the morning but she did a massage.Tuesday
Could have open one in metro I need to do this!
Street 2 opens but they were busy
I missed at least 3 correct opportunitiesBar mardi
With Kevin I wasn’t comfortable at all no convo and unable to listen/understand properly with the noise.Seen a (cold) NC from previous BM also a girl I kissed at Spirito which wasn’t responding much to my texts. I tried to kiss again but her friends were not far.
NC a French.Wednesday
Street 1open Indirect but she was in a hurry
1she was not speaking French and left
1 open on her shoes I found cool (it was for once natural and I was honest) , Belgian called Helena, I could have talked longer or at least take numberLoft with Adrian, I saw again the Romanian I KC at Spirito. I was in a good vibe with my wing so I had balls to say hi, then I opened 3sets fearless with fun.
Fucked my French 3times, last time in the morning I was thinking about the German while fucking her, I was already tired about routine. She fucks great and sensation without condom but still I got bored
Thursday
Street 1open it was cool to go out walk and change my mind.
Starting today I’m doing positive challenge, I’ll not underline what I missed but be grateful with myself. Improvements will come with actionVibkes with Adrian, handling a 2set with one interested touching me. Cool convo with Marina work in com’ agency, had boyfriend.
Then around 3 fearless speed seduction opens on dancefloor, cool sensation.
Deli alone just checking who’s here.Friday
While hesitating to go out in center or to Havana, my German texted me she’s nearby.
Fucked her twice until 4am! Good to see this amazing body again.Saturday
Meetup Saint Gery some convos, my mental state could have been better.
Went home watching rsd max motivation vids and then Deli wing with Vincent then alone nice sets.
Next time push moreSunday
Running almost 20km with my ex, talked a lot about myself it was nice.
Seen the German again to have great time. It feels so great to get some affection, she finally opened a little bit admitting I was good at bed and cute->Lessons and next steps:
After nice Accountability 10, these last 2weeks my game was more on hold.
My inner state need a lot of attention to keep high energy and positive mindset
It’s not time the to complain, it’s not easy but I’ll fucking improve
Focus on getting detached of my sexfriends:
– Cro girl is not worth to contact again, if she cares about me she needs to invest herself
– French I’m waiting she comes back to me
– German limitation on seeing her once per week max19 septembre 2017 à 22h41 #2258#AccountabilityWeek13 #Ben
Summary: first time I’m late on my accountability, less focus on resultsMonday
Street without opening, shit happens
Deli and nua with the group was cool to change my ideasTuesday
Street 2 opensBar mardi with Blaise around 7 approaches.
High state of energy and willing to take action.
even if no investment from any sets.
Seen 3 known faces I dated or kissed. I just said hi and quick convoFrench was about to flake our night, we fucked 3times, so good to come together again, she puts a lot of energy to move her body for nice sensations.
Wednesday
Street 2indirect 1 direct, not giving a fuck while walking and writing previous reports.
Great that I go take fresh air during lunch break.
Deli at 23h30 alone to change my mindThursday
It’s raining, I know it’s not an excuse because if I start to look at weather to go out open in Brussels… Instead of street approach in commercial gallery, I’ll do itGin jeudi then La haut with Jaryd, some convos.
Friday
Saik good initiative to party Jaryd birthday with huge cake shared on grand place.
Leuven with Nelson and Vincent some short convosSaturday
Deli with Adrian and then bar nearby.
He was good into convos, I was more backing up
A milf was quite into me insisting to dance and touching me a lot, not use to it was cool.Sunday
Went out alone for car free day taking sun, approach mindset to work on.Meetup in French, convo with Romanian doing same job as me lol.
A girl sitting in front of me opened me in the metro with the line ‘I like your style’, so fucking unexpected first time I receive a compliment from a stranger.
Slept again with my German it was awesome -
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